From: "ercgreen" ercgreen@yourinter.net
Subject: DAYS OF OUR LIVES #131
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:06:37 -0400

MAIL-call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES

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GREEN, Elder RC (gH), DOB: 1936, RA13513638, E7, 982/98C, Det 27, 1-15MY61, Det 120, MY-JL65, Det 27, JN66-OC67 & Det 4-4, OC67-NO68, (Patty), 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-349-7395, ercgreen@yourinter.net

TAPS

GRITIS, Betty Economy Hostetler - Dear Friends. On September 23, 2003, our beloved Betty Economy Gritis passed away peacefully in her sleep. I would like to thank you for your many expressions of love and concern over the past several months. I know that Betty deeply appreciated your letters, phone calls, and visits -- they buoyed her spirits when she was down. She loved each and every one of you, and she will be deeply missed by all of us. For those of you in town, friends and relatives will be received at Advent Funeral Home, 7211 Lee Hwy, Falls Church, Virginia, 22046 on Thursday, October 2, 2003 from 6 to 9 p.m. Assembly at the Arlington National Cemetery Administration Building on Friday, October 3, 2003 at 9:30 a.m., to be followed by graveside service and interment at 10:00 a.m. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to the Kidney
Cancer Association, 1234 Sherman Ave, Chicago, IL 60202.
The following information was submitted to the Washington Post for publication later this week:
Betty Hostetler Economy Gritis, Volunteer
Betty Hostetler Economy Gritis, 75, a resident of Springfield, Virginia, died of complications resulting from kidney cancer September 23 at her home. Mrs. Gritis, lived for more than 30 years in Springfield, and was a member of the Sigma Beta philanthropic sorority and the Daughters of the American Revolution. She worked for many years as a White House volunteer, serving during the administrations of Presidents Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Clinton, and George W. Bush. Mrs. Gritis was an
accomplished needleworker, and her cross-stitch creations can be found in the homes of friends and relatives around the world. Born in Edinboro, Pennsylvania, she married Air Force Capt. Peter Economy in 1952 and accompanied her husband to postings in California, Georgia, and Virginia as he led the U-2, SR-71, and other critical national security programs. After the death of Col. Economy in 1977, she married Peter Gritis in 1988. Survivors include her husband, retired Army Lt.Col. Peter Gritis; two sons, Keith Economy of Bristow, Virginia, and Peter Economy of La Jolla, California; step-daughters Patricia Lessard of Richmond, Virginia, Carol Russell of Houston, Texas, and Gail Gritis of San Diego, California; a step-son, Peter Gritis, Jr. of Fairfax, Virginia; a brother, David Park Hosttetler of Glenwood Springs, Colorado; and 14 grandchildren. # # # Again, I would like to thank you for your support, your love, and your friendship. Peter Gritis [See below for BIO on Peter Gritis]

SIMONTON, William (Bill) Det 4, ? - From Bob Isaacs: "...Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I just [8/3] finished speaking with Nancy Simonton, Bill Simonton passed away on 30 July 2003 in New Hampshire." A memorial service was held on 8 August in the Congregation Church, Jaffrey Center, New Hampshire. Bill had served in ASA units in Sinop, Asmara and Fort Devens. For cards: Nancy Simonton, 215 Bryant Rd, Jaffrey, NH, 03452, 603-532-7907.

INFO ON THE 2004 ASA TURKEY REUNION

The 2004 4^th ASA Turkey Reunion is progressing to the extent that a location has been selected in Huntsville, Alabama. Negotiations are underway by Ernie Carrick (Det 4) and Walter Sinor (Det 27) for affordable rooms and amenities. When final contract is signed details will be published here, with a comprehensive list of what will be offered in Huntsville. Ernie and Walter are looking forward to the 2004 ASA Turkey reunion and will do their very best to make your stay in Huntsville a very enjoyable one.

BURT SLESINGER's NEWSLETTERS

Burt is the editor of a ASA-wide newsletter . If anyone is interested in receiving Burt's newsletter - send email to slesingerburt@spacey.net with your complete snail-mail address, phone number, name of significant other (if such is the case), and a brief BIO of ASA service (unit, location, and years (e.g. TUSLOG Det 4, Sinop, 58-59; Hq ASA Europe, Frankfurt, 59-62; etc.)) and he'll take care of the rest.

Burt is a former SINOPER and his MASTER ROSTER entry is: SLESINGER, Burt DOB: 1929, 1LT-CPT, 9620, Det 4, 4JL58-MY59, (Sandi), 722 Wing Foot Ln., Melbourne FL 32940, 321-254-2134, slesingerburt@spacey.net

NOTICE: The next DOOL (#132) will be issued on 24 October 2003

MAIL CALL

BAKER, Richard C., (Dick), RA12903486, E5, 05K, Det 4, 68-69, 20185 E. Country Club Dr., #305, Aventura, FL 33180, dbaker17@bellsouth.net. - Just received the 479 page ASA Memory Book CD - Thanks. I really am enjoying it and want to attend the next ASA Turkey Reunion. I was at Det 4 in 68-69. Thanks again!

BATHURST, Gary, DOB: 1941, RA19669460, E3-E4, 058, Det 27, JA61-JL62, (Jeanette), 7207 97th Ave., SW., Lakewood, WA 98498, 253-581-7226, whidbey222@aol.com dsl. Contacted on 14 Sept 2003. Enjoyed his TOUR OF DUTY at Det 27 as a 058.

BELL, Preston L E2-E5 98C Det 27, MY65-DE66, 25445 Jasper Rd., Barstow, CA 92311, bolo1942@hotmail.com, - [edited] Elder, Merhaba and selâmlamak - I have not yet ordered the 2003 ASA Turkey Memory Book from Chuck Bergmann. Not sure what it is about. Guess I have been behind the power curve on that one. Been busy with my natural building workshops around the SW. I have a tendency to read those posts that pertain to Det-27 as that is where I knew folks. Had a super visit with Al Lafo and Tom Bodine on 17 September 2003 at Pine Manor Retreats, near Lake Elsinore, California. Whew, we were bad boys back in 65 and 66. Lots of good memories though. Hope to see these guys again soon. We were all in the same class of 98C's and were at Det-27 from May 65 to Dec 66 or so. We really enjoyed out mini-reunion. Tom Bodine just returned from an overseas assignment in Spain and is between job assignments. He does not have an e-mail address due to his change of job assignments, but will probably get another one in a few months. He will be in the Washington D.C. area for the next year or so before going back overseas. Al Lafo just retired in the San Diego area and is (in his words) busy on his list of things that need to be done. Does the word 'honeydo' ring a bell? :-) He does not have an email address, but I can contact him through his wife's work email. He is pretty quiet on the internet I believe. It was a hoot being with these old friends even if just for a day. We were all in from Sept 64 through Sept 68 and were 982s (98C). Tom and I were together from basic at Fort Ord through Fort Devens and then Det-27. After that, we got split up in Nam, him going to the 371st (amongst a bunch of others) and I spent my tour with the 509th. He returned to Vint Hill Farms, VA and I returned to NSA at Ft Meade, MD for our final stations (or so we thought) We were with Al Lafo at Devens and Turkey. He was at basic with us at Ord, but in another company. We met up at Ft Devens. After Turkey, he was posted to Two Rock Ranch for his terminal assignment. I went back in after a 3.5 year break and finished up my 20-years. Tom got his degree and was a school teacher for a few years, but after 3 or so years he went back in for a 5+ year stint to get some training he wanted. He was posted at the Field Station in Berlin. He is with the Defense Department, mostly on overseas duties. Anyway, like I said it was a hoot. Tom has an amazing memory and was able to apply some names to the faces in our memories. Both he and Al are much better at that than I. Also by talking, more of the 'repressed' memories surfaced. Gads, how did we survive some of those shenanigans, heh? :-) I remember Maureen Lozouskas who was the crafts instructor at the rec center during 1966. She taught me ceramics and photography and was just a super person. She was the wife of Tony Lozouskas and was on an accompanied tour. I also cannot remember the name of the guy I replaced. He was a 98C and I think his first name might have been Frank (according to Tom). He was from IL, just south or close to Chicago. I think it might have been Rockford, IL. I was his 'jeep' and he was kind of like an older brother. I remember he took great delight in showing off his 'jeep' on both good and bad things. He worked the day shift and I was on straight mids. Tom Bodine thinks his 'replacee' was John Day. So, that is kind of what went on at our mini-reunion at Pine Manor Retreats, near Lake Elsinore, CA (http://www.pinemanor.com/) We met there as its about 1/2 way between Barstow (my part time home) and San Diego. It is also a place where I do a lot of my natural building workshops. I wanted to show off some of the 'stuff' to Tom and Al, so it all worked out super. Here is a pict of the gray trio. hosça kalin or güle güle or ? I am sure someone knows another one, heh? :-) Preston of the Mojave

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BERGMANN, Chuck, (JC), E4, 058, Det 27, MY66-DE67, (Helen), 29813 Foote Rd., Bay Village, OH 44140, 440-871-5346 jcbergmann@cs.com & cbergmann@insp-eng.com - Hi Elder, Got your 579 page CD the other day and it looks good. I started making up the CD's today and will start mailing them again tomorrow. I'll send you a regular size CD this week so you can have one also.

BIEHL, John S., DOB: 1941, RA19671651, E4-E5 058.10 Det 27,61-62, (Dianna), 1442 Seacoast Dr., Imperial Beach, CA 91932 619-423-7073, per UO #10 dtd 26MR62 & SO#156 dtd 19SE62 E5 DOR 19SE62 - Contacted on 14 Sept 2003. Has many fond memories of his Tour of Duty with the ASA and Manzarali, Turkey in particular. Was born in Chicago and moved to California shortly thereafter. Like many of ous old-timers - his parents were poor with little formal education.

BINTLIFF, Chuck, DOB: 1937, RA12605861, E4, 059, Det 27, 61-63, 93 Church St., Beverly, NJ 08010, 609-387-2119, chuck08010@comcast.net Found and contacted Chuck Bintliff on 13 Sept 2003 per Det 27 Operations Company Unit Order Number 10 dtd 26 March 1962. Was very surprised, but pleased to hear from me asking questions about his Tour of Duty at Det 27. Native of New Jersey. Enlisted for ASA and after basic at Fort Dix was sent to Fort Devens for 058 and 059 training that lasted 18 months. I have sent email off to Jack Bailey and so far he has not answered but I am sure he will... I cannot thank you enough for your interest in me and also your work on this site... I am sure it takes a lot of time and I thank you... Should I be of any assistance to you please let me know...
gulay gulay, Chuck

BUKSA, Denis J., 058, Det 4, 63, 15 River Dr., Munster, IN 46321, djbuksa@bigfoot.com. Reverend. My e-mail address is now: djbuksa@bigfoot.com - Thank you

CISMOSKI, Dave, DOB: 1940, RA17557750, E4, 059, Det 27,60-62, (Mary), 3297 Orchid Way, Prescott, AZ 86305, 928-777-9084, cismo77@aol.com per Thiedek

CRAM, Gene, W2, W2215309, OIC T/A, Det 27, 66-67, (Phyllis), 5180 SW Gardenia Ct., Dunnellon, FL 34431, 352-489-9085, superchief3@msn.com - Received the ASA Turkey 2003 Memory Book mini-disk from Chuck Bergmann and are really enjoying it. Great job!!! Also - We really enjoyed the card of good wishes from the ASA Turkey 2003 reunion group who were at Seven Springs, PA. We had reservations, but had to cancel for health reasons. That was very thoughtful of Ted and Sue Willingham to think of us and get the signatures. Hope to make it to Alabama in 2004. Thanks a jillion. Gene and Phyl Cram

DEESE, Ronnie L 55y, E3-E5 98C Det 27: 15NO66-1NO67, Det 4-4: 1NO67-20DE68,
(Mary), 7520 W Henry Ave., Tampa, FL 33615, 813-884-8556, rdeesebama@yahoo.com
From: "Ronnie Deese" rdeesebama@yahoo.com, to: seagle101@aol.com, Cc:ercgreen@yourinter.net
Elder R.C. Green started gathering the names of the ASA vets from Det 4 and 27 about 4 years ago. It has grown beyond belief and now he e-mails just a few who pass it on to a large number of other vets, some from from Det 4-4. I am sure many of the same vets served in both Viet Nam and Turkey. Also, I think he has other ASA web sites he might share with you.

GRITIS, Peter, DOB: 1921, Cpt-Maj, Ops O, Det 27, 59-62, (Helen- deceased, 2/W Betty-deceased), 5236 Inverchapel Rd., Springfield, VA 22151, 703-321-7258, betpetg@juno.com. I made contact with Peter and Betty Gritis on 5 April 2002. Since that time Peter Gritis has been a faithful reader of the DOOL's and the following is an update:

[edited] Betty's health has worsened. Many thanks to all who have expressed their concerns and encouragement to Betty. I am sorry that I have not acknowledged all of your inquiries but I hope that the following synopses will enable you to comprehend the present situation: In 1989, Betty had a large cancerous tumor and right kidney removed. During this operation she also contracted hepatits C. In subsequent years she had other cancerous wedges removed from her remaining left kidney plus one from her left lung. Within the last 6-7 years she had experienced serious rectal bleeding episodes which resulted in several hospitalizations and different medical procedures such as endoscopies, laser treatments, cauterizations, embolizations (cutting off the blood supply to the tumor) plus blood trans-fusions were used. Somehow, to the amazement of the doctors, Betty always recovered and resumed normal activities. However, during June and July of 2003, she experienced severe on and off bleeding which resulted in over 26 days of hospitalization, which included 15 separate radiation treatments, and the receipt of 28 units of blood. She seemed to lose blood as fast as it was transfused. The bleeding stopped in early August and she went home. After one week under home health care she was back in the emergency room. This time, the doctors suggested consideration of hospice care, since the doctors had run out of options to stop the bleeding. She accepted hospice. On 18 August 2003 her oncologist said Betty had a very aggressive tumor outside her duodenum which caused the bleeding. Surgical removal was considered too risky for any success and/or quality of life. He told us that Betty had about 3 months more to live. A week later, on August 25th, Betty vomited blood and had continuous bloody stools. This was also when Betty first said she was in pain. The hospice nurse administered morphine and ativan (anxiety pill) medication. Betty almost died. Since then, Betty has been under sedation. She takes liquids, but no solid food because she can't swallow. She is slowly getting weaker and seems to be fading away. When talking, she has lapses and disconnects in her trend of thought, but appears lucid in recognizing that her end is near. She states that she has already said her good-bye's to family and friends. All above is offered in the spirit of the hospice philosophy, which affirms life and regards dying as a natural process that should be neither hastened nor prolonged. Peter

BIO
Peter Gritis Memoirs of his TURKEY Tour of Duty at Det 27, Manzarali Station,1959-62
I was the Operations Officer of Det 27 (in fact I was there when the station was being built) during 1959-62; went to Bad Aibling, Germany 1962-64; went to HQ ASA Europe, 1964-65; returned to HQ ASA in 1965 as an assistant Inspector General for almost 2 years and the last 6 months as Chief SIGINT Division. I retired in October 1968 as a Lt Col. Went to work for the Army Materiel Command in 1969 as a civilian and retired again in 1986. Been goofing off since !!!!! One of the key aspects of life in Turkey in this period (59-62) was its poverty compared with the US or Western Europe. A consequence of this was the high import duties which the government put on imported goods, the temptations led to smuggling, and the countermeasures which a government with bureaucratic inclinations imposed to try to prevent smuggling. We learned about the controls on imported goods before leaving Virginia since we had to declare to Turkish Customs all household goods which we were bringing into Turkey, including specific counts on silverware, plates, etc. Under the Status of Forces Agreement, US Armed Forces personnel were allowed to bring such household goods into Turkey free of tax as long as the goods were later exported from Turkey when the soldier left the country. Every one of the items imported into Turkey free of tax under this agreement needed to be produced upon demand of the customs inspectors when leaving Turkey, or it was assumed that the item in question had been sold, and at that point the duty, usually 100%, would be owed. Sometimes items were broken, and they had to be kept until departure, so that they could still be showed to the Customs officials. Someone at Arlington Hall Station gave me a set of 144 bar glasses. During the 3 years we were in Turkey, every one of these glasses was broken, and the broken pieces were all stored in a box until we left. Under the Status of Forces Agreement, I was entitled to bring in one car into Turkey tax free, and I brought a 1953 Mercury which we had driven in Japan. We had continuous problems with the voltage regulator on this car, and it died 4 times in Japan. When I arrived in Japan, there was a real shortage of cars there, and prices were very high. I had therefore hoped to sell my car at these high prices upon leaving Japan, but in the meantime some entrepreneur had brought a shipload of used American cars into Japan and had depressed the market. We therefore brought the car back to America at the end of my tour in Japan and took it with us to Turkey, but then I decided I needed a larger and more reliable car, and so I decided to sell the Mercury and buy a 1960 model Volkswagen minibus from Germany. Both selling the old car and buying the new car were experiences. I sold the Mercury to a Turk, who took a long time to actually deliver the agreed price for the car. In the meantime, consistent with Turkish practice, I kept the car on blocks until the money was received. As the time was approaching when I would need the cash from the old car to pay for the new car, I had to go to the buyer's uncle, who owned a winery, and asked him for the money on behalf of his nephew. I finally got paid only 2 weeks before taking delivery of the new car in 1961. I bought the Volkswagen from a dealer in Ankara who had brochures, but no cars actually in stock. The price offered was very attractive since this could be a tax-free import. The price delivered to Turkey was $1800, compared to $2000 in Germany (including taxes), and $2400 in the US (with taxes and shipping). I wanted to buy a blue car, but the dealer said I could only buy a red car, the same as in the brochure. I also asked for an optional gas gauge and for a larger mirror, and was told no. Ultimately, I got exactly the car that was shown in the brochure - the same color and the same features. I had to drive from Ankara to Istanbul to pick up the car at the port. When I got there, the car was really dull and dirty looking since it had been covered with a preservative while being transported on the deck of a ship and exposed to the elements and sea spray. The preservative was removed by brushing the car with gasoline and then it looked fine. Later back in Ankara, I took the car to a garage for routine maintenance. A German instructor was there teaching Turkish mechanics how to service Volkswagens. A rear end assembly was spread out on a floor and was being put back together. I remember the instructor went into a tirade when one of the Turkish mechanics picked up a part with greasy hands. If entering Turkey was an adventure, it was no surprise that leaving Turkey would be the same. My next assignment was to Bad Aibling, Germany, and we decided to drive there during the school holidays in the summer of 1962. We spent a night in Istanbul, which was memorable for the rancid butter in which our breakfast eggs were cooked. We then passed through Edirne (former name Adrianople) on our way to the frontier with Greece, which was always tense because of the traditional hostility between Turkey and Greece. It ended up taking over 6 hours to go through the Turkish border post. I had arrived in Turkey 3 years before as a Captain and driving a Mercury. I was leaving Turkey as a Major and driving a Volkswagen. This created doubts about whether I was the same person who entered 3 years previously, and also whether I had paid duty on the sale of the Mercury, and so we sat at the border post while phone calls went back and forth with Ankara to resolve these questions. During all this time, my wife was very anxious and took some tranquilizers. While I was engaged with the customs officials and my wife was sitting tranquilized on the front porch of the border post, my daughter Gail, then 4 years old, fell into a well in front of the building.
She flailed around for some time while her older sisters, Patricia (then 10) and Carol (then 8), argued over who was going to get her clothes wet pulling Gail out of the water. Fortunately, Patricia finally jumped in and pulled Gail out before she drowned. It was good that Patricia jumped in, since the well was over 10 feet deep and Carol did not really know how to swim yet. After we finally were cleared to leave Turkey, and had passed through the border gates to the Greek side, I discovered that I had left my briefcase with my orders and other important papers on the Turkish side of the border. I did not want to reenter Turkey to get them, thereby risking going through the departure process all over again, and one of the Turkish officials threw my briefcase across the border to me. Patricia had left a new pair of shoes on the Turkish side, and they were not tossed over. Presumably, they went to one of the daughters of the border officials. Our house in Ankara had marble floors, which was typical in Turkish houses because it was inexpensive. In contrast, wood was very expensive and in short supply. Turks who had contact with the US military liked to scavenge wood from the packing cases in which our household goods were shipped. A Turkish carpenter made a bar for me out of wood from packing cases which was rounded and cut to look like bamboo. Water was also scarce and was only available for our house a few times a day. We would all take baths in a single tub of water which would then be kept and used for flushing the toilet. We got drinking water from a military clinic and brought it to the house in 7-1/2 gallon carboys. We shared both a janitor and a maid with some other military families. The janitor once tried to carry a lawnmower across the street while it was on, and the blade cut off the tips of his fingers. The janitor and maid used to fight over who got the empty bottles and cans from our family. These could be sold for scrap and also used to make things. At this time, the Turkish army made a big point of serving recruits canned foods in order to introduce them to the Turkish population. There was an attempted coup in Ankara during our stay. One of the ringleaders of the coup was the son of the owners of an apartment rented by Americans which was behind our house on the other side of a ravine. Paratroopers were dropped from the sky around us and there was a tank down the street pointing toward our house because of this connection with the coup ringleader. We stayed in the house for 2-3 days until everything settled down. During the coup, the Turkish army commandeered the Cadillac owned by one of the US Army colonels. The colonel's wife could not stop them from taking their car, but she insisted on going with them and driving the car herself. The Turks did not like American women driving since they thought that as a man's job. One way that they tried to keep American women from driving was to require that they get a certificate of a physical exam received from a Turkish doctor, who of course would be male. They did not think that American women would take a physical exam from a Turkish doctor. It was common for Turks to use Coca Cola syrup as a medicine, especially to soothe upset stomachs. The US government gave a lot of US food to the Turkish government as foreign aid, but the products and sizes were not really suitable.The US provided frozen chickens, which the Turkish government had trouble selling to the public since Turks expected chickens to come with a neck and feet and US chickens are sold without them. Also, butter and cheese were provided in 5 lb. tins, which was very wasteful since the typical person did not have any refrigeration. I look forward to hearing from you :) Peter Gritis

MAU, Norman R., E2-E4, Det 27, JA65-JN66, (Theresa), 11225 Broad Green Dr., Potomac, MD, 20854, 301-983-8469, maun@hotmail.com & maun@yahoo.com - Hi ER, Thanks for arranging the reunion at Seven Springs. The meeting rooms were superb and I believe met our needs. I thought that the Saturday dinner was very good and enough for everyone. You mentioned that there is another ASA site. Could you please send the address to me? Cheers, Norman

McCANTS, Joseph E., (Ed), DOB: 1941, RA12849675, E4-E5, 98C, Det 4, FE69-DE69 & 4-4, DE69-JN71, (Annegell), 324 Pineland Lane, Moncks Corner, SC 29461, 843-899-6801, mccants@dvua.com - Thanks for the update. I am glad the reunion turned out to be a big success. Wish I could have attended. I would like to get one of the CDs you mention, but I need the address of Chuck Bergmann or a contact method. Could you also give me a short synopsis of the content of the CD? Thanks for the reply. I am looking forward to getting a copy of the BIOS. You were in Turkey a few years ahead of me. I left Devens for Sinop Det 4 in early 1969 and was there for 10 months before our unit was sent to Karamursel Det 4-4. I was at Karamursel until the summer of 1971 when I was sent to Homestead Fla. where I was discharged. I don't remember the commanders you mentioned, but then I did my best to stay away for them as they usually meant trouble. Major Frickey(sp) was the commander when I was at Det 4-4 and Sgt Sissler was in charge of our unit. I do seem to remember seeing major Cima's name, so he might have been there when I first arrived or maybe he had just left. People on my trick I remember include Bob Snyder, Marty McKenna, Wayne Ervin, Steve Pate, and Phil Fogle. I have heard from Phil as a result of this WEB site, and I would sure like to hear from others that might remember me. Thanks for all you guys are doing to help us communicate and keep in touch.

MILLER, Jonathan, E4 98C Det 27 & 4-4, JN67-MY68, jonathan.miller@tbwachiat.com
My name is Jonathan Miller. I came across yours searching for info about the ASA in Turkey and other places. I remember your name from either Ft. Devens or Turkey. I was an analyst (MOS 982) I trained at Devens in the winter and spring of 1967 and served at DET. 27 from June 1967 and then took the long, wintry bus ride to Karamursel AFB and Det 4-4 along with most everyone else. I recall spending a lot of time working mids at Det. 27 which perhaps explains why we don’t remember each other. I was spending most of my work time sitting at a teletype machine coding entries and producing loooong strips of teletype tape. I was a PFC or Spec. 4 around about then. I remember a Sergeant at Det 27 whose name was Cole as I recall but most of the other names from Det 27 have slipped my mind except for a fellow named Dave Canby and of course Todd Lund or "Gross Lund" as he was often referred to for reasons too disgusting to re-tell. I ran into him once on the way to RVN. I remember a Sergeant whose name was Bob Ware from Karamursel. In May of 1968 I returned to the States briefly where I got some additional training at NSA and left for Vietnam in July 1968. I served at the 330th RRC until July 1968 and finished my tour there at USM-7 in 1970 when I left the ARMY. Please include me in any of your email correspondence. Anyway, it would be nice to see any material that might jog my memory and recall those days. And who knows, maybe someone remembers me. I am happy to provide any other information you may require to participate in ASA memories. I am interested in finding anyone else who remembers the great saga of the FOCK ROCK, a DET 27 LEGEND. Thanks and best wishes, JONATHAN MILLER

PERLOWSKI, Jim, DOB: 1944, RA16778790, E4, 71Q, Det 27, MR64-OC65, (Charlene-div), 6333 Copperfield Ave., Las Vegas, NV 89108, 702-646-7142, jamesp@accessnv.com - Mauler editor 64-65. Up-dated entry.

TETI, Angelo, DOB 1942, RA13809264, E-4-E5, 98J, Det 4, NO64-NO65, (Phyllis), 2000 Greenock Buena Vista Rd., McKesport PA 15135 412-754-0128, angelot@comcast.com. Contacted on 19 September 2003. Angelo informs that after SINOP, he worked as a 98J instructor at Fort Devens for 9 years and then bought a restaurant in McKeesport, PA and named it TILLIES. Tillies has been in operations for 24 years and still is going strong. Angelo mentioned John Owen, Mike Suray (Baby Huey), Bill Nesler, Tom Seaman, Konopka, Lynn Fair, Anthony Russo, Kondzielski (sp?), Snelson, Arlin Seasholtz, Richard E. Guerin and several others. Angelo says that he has a ROSTER of all the 98J's who were trained at Devens and will provide me with a copy. Patty and I intend to visit TILLIES soon. Angelo promised to prepare a BIO for inclusion in the DOOL.

WALCHER, Steve, DOB 1949, RA1699...., E3-E5, Spec Svcs, Det 4, JA69-JA70, (Gloria), 4527 Butler Dr., Decatur, IL 62526, 217-875-6840. stevewalcher@insightbb.com. This ex-Det 4 Vet was found by Tony and Val Antonello at the 2003 Chitose reunion at San Diego and their email to me: "Hi Elder & Patty, While we were at the Chitose reunion in San Diego we got talking to a vet who was stationed in Sinop, working in Special Services, from January 1969 to January 1970. He has been trying to find information on any Turkey web site or reunion. Of course, we told him about you and the Turkey Reunion Group. As we didn't have your email address with us we told him we would contact you and pass along his name, email address and phone number. Incidentally, his wife, Gloria, said she would love to go to 2004 ASA Turkey reunion in Alabama. That's it for now, hope to see you both at the Augsburg reunion at Blob's Park next month."

Hi Elder, I just read the last newsletter dated Sept 12, 2003. I found it be quite interesting. I also forwarded the website to another Sinop member, Gary Guenther. Remember I was telling you about classmates.com. I just checked the website and discovered there are a total of 451 people registered for Sinop and 98 from 1969 - 70. Most of these have appeared in the last two years. The wife and I are checking our schedules very carefully for the Huntsville time. I see it will be held the week before the Chitose 2004 Reunion. At the moment, our major problem is that we both still work and don't know if we will be able to get off work at the same time, for both reunions. We don't work at he same place but I am disabled and it makes it very difficult for my wife to push me around in my wheel chair. I'm just not sure if we can handle the physical stress of the two trips so close together. I am just now catching up from last weeks trip to San Diego. We will do everything we can to attend. My wife was really excited when I told where your 2005 reunion is to be held. She fell in love with San Antonio during our 2001 Chitose. If you don't mind, I would like to contact three other guys about the Turkey reunions. Two may be interested but I am not sure about the third. Steve Page' was at Sinop and Chitose with me but he has never responded to any of my letters. With the Chitose reunion being held in Wilmington and him located in Virginia, it wouldn't a long trip. Once again, thanks for the phone call and the information. We'll do what we can to be in Huntsville. Later, Steve

WHITE, Ronald D., E4-E6, 98CRU, Det 27, SE65-NO67, (Linda), 1200 W Riverside Ave., Wichita, KS 67203, 316-263-6890, r_white1@sbcglobal.net - HI, Just a note to let you know that I have a new E-Mail Address: R_White1@sbcglobal.net. Sorry for any inconvience, but hope to hear from you soon.

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